Kirsti Thoresdtr Grue

  Research Notes:

See "biographical sketch" under stories; also Mora newspaper article, 1951

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1. birth - Norway parish records

- surname as Gruen
- scan is of poor quality (not focused), thus cannot make out the names of sponsors at christening
-- however, the next page is a repeat: witnesses - Kari Jonsdtr Mosengen, Marit Neilsdtr Tuv[?]singdal, Ingri Eriksdtr Berg, Jon Eriksen Mosengen, Ingsbret Eriksen Tuv[?]singdal, Hans Pedersen Narjord

b. Confirmation: 17 June 1932, at Os
- Klokkerbok, page 170, no 19 (2nd side); Ministerialbok, no 4, 1815-1836, page 178 no 19 (2nd side) records name as Kirsti Thoresdater Norgaard (although it might be Nergaard)

2. Bygebok for Os, page 375

- left in 1845 for Røros

++ 1865 Norway Census for Røros does not list Kirsti or Kirstie or Kjersti or Kjerstie Thoresdtr, born in
Tolgen; [ 13 Jul 2012 ]


3. Norway Parish Registers Os i Tolga Klokkerbok, 1845-1887, page 340, line 2 (2nd side); Ministerialbok, page 185 no 7

Leaving - 4 June 1845, Kirsti Thoresdtr Grue, ..... ???; born 12 Feb 1816; til Roraas ... ???
BUT no record of coming into Røros 1845-1846 or leaving 1845-1846 [18 Oct 2017, reviewed again on 29 Nov 2017 - no record in the Røros moving in or out; BUT her brother, John Thoresen Grue (b 1813) was married on the 15 June 1845 at Røros ]
link to Roros, https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/9227/185

but, then to Sweden - Sweden Church Records for moving in records (B:1, 1845-1894, image 5, no 2)
- 14 Apr 1846, Pig Kersta Thoresdotter from Tolgen, going to page 201, book AI:5 (here she is married date not noted, but with marriage records, on 2 Nov 1846 )

[B:1 image 5, no 2 on the right hand side of the page, 'utflyttade [leaving] 2 Oct 1846, Bonden Jo Jonsen med hustra.... och 2 sonnen 1 datter from Ströbacken till Söderham --- NOTE: this is a different Jo Jonsen ]


It isn't clear if she actually went or spent a lot of time at Røros - if she did go, it was likely for a short time, before she returned to Tolga. She then left again from Tolga parish to Särna parish in Sweden, arriving 14 Apr 1846 [age, 30] . She was later married on 2 Nov 1846 and about 3 months later, son Emret was born (but the difference between 14 Apr 1846 and Jan 1847 is 8 months and 29 days). It isn't clear how, when, or where Jon Jonsson and Kirsti/Kersti met


4. Klokkervang, p 17 - married and moved to Sweden [ Kirsti g. og flyttet til Sverige ]
4.b. Klokkervang by Per Harold Grue, page 16 - same as Thoralf Grue




5. Ancestry.com Public Member Tree; http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/2839267/person/24031012731
[still active, 21 Oct 2022]

'Kenneth Berglund Family Tree owner kennethberglund1', last login Dec 2014; his relationship likely from Kersta's daughter, Sigrid born in 1856; however, with surname of Berglund the relationship may not be a direct relationship, but through a marriage.

- records name as Kersta Thoresdatter Gruen, born 12 Feb 1816 (father, Thore Johnsen Grue, then Jon Simensen Gruen, then Simen Mortensen ; dates of birth/death fairly accurate sometimes a year difference; location is not very accurate - for example, Thore Jonsen Grue born in 1778 in Roros, Osterdal, Norway ???

- Kersta married to Jo Jonsen Trång 2 Nov 1846 at Särna, Dalarna [actually Kopparberg län], Sweden;
[ vol C:4, 1845-1859 image 35, no 2 ]
Bonden (on) Träng Jo Jonsen, age 39 and Kersta Thoresdotter age, 30, from Heden

- she died May 1859, but can't find record [ 10 Jan 2015 ] -- this the wrong date of death, should be 1856, see below

Children: Särna parish, Koppersberg,, births (Födde) 1845-1859, starting page 24
page 24: son: Embrect, born 12 Jan 1847, bap 13 Jn 1847; Bonden Träng, Jo Jonsen Kersti or Kersta Thoresdotter på Hede by?
page 26: son: Johan, born 2 Feb 1849, bap 9 Feb 1849; Bond Träng, Jo Jonsen och Kersta Thoresdotter på Hede by?
page 28: son: Tobias, born 1 Feb 1851, bap 12 Feb 1851; Bond Trång, Jo Jonsen och Kersta Thoresdotter från Heden
page 31: daughter: Karin, born 5 Nov 1853, bap 7 Nov 1853; Bonden Trång, Jo Jonsen och Kersta Thoresdotter, Heden
page 33: twins, son and daughter: Jon and Sigrud, born 10 Mar 1856, bap 12 Mar 1856; Trång Jo Jonsen och Kersta Thoresdotter, Heden; [ note: Nåd Döpt - The grace of Baptism; then something ...? for Mar 12]

** Actually the Husförhör books (AI:5 and AI:6a both record Jon's birth as 10 Mar and Sigrid as 12 Mar - this seems to be a bit unusual for twins with Sigrid's birth more than 24 hours later , although not completely unheard of ; ADD to this, the mother's death on 25 Mar, because of the drowning, but perhaps also somewhat related to birth of the twin

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- note: one source is linked to a pdf - Släkthistoria,från,Särnaheden.

One day in May 1859 ** drowned by horse on the Hedefjorden at Heden Trång, Jo Jonsson d. Ä. [ ? ] was from Trang farm in Heden and his wife in his second marriage, Kersta Toresdotter from Norway. They left six minor children in poor circumstances, the two smallest twins and only 3 years old.

** actual date of death was 21 May 1856 [not 1859]; vol C:4, 1845-1859, image 13, no 11, 2nd side
BUT in the Husförhör book, page100, death is recorded as 25 May 1856

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6. Särna Parish

Husförhör AI:5, 1828-1847, page 201
- [at] Trång

Jon Jonsson, born 15 Jun 1807, Heden (first wife, Sigrid Jonsdtr born 1811 and died 10 Jul 1843)
wife,
- Chresta Thoresdotter, 12 Feb 1816 at Tolgen

- son Jon born 23 Nov 1833 at Heden, daughter Kersta born 8 Mar 1837 at Heden, and son Pehr born 16 Jun 1840 at Heden
- son of second wife, Embrect born 12 Jan 1847, Heden


Husförhör AI:6a, 1848-1857, page 100 ; Hede By, Trång [ recorded for the years 1848-1857 ]

- children, etc,
- Kersti died in 25 Mar 1856 (Husförhör): also, C:4 Särna deaths/burials, image 13 no 11 -- on this page/vol, her death is recorded as 21 Mar 1856
What date is correct - no way of knowing; also see (under 'stories') my footnotes on the article, Släkthistoria från Särnaheden

and then in 1857, Jon Jonsson died


and

Husförhör AI:6b, 1848-1858, page 112 ; Hede By, Trång [ recorded for the years 1857-1868 ] -- our Kirsti Toresdatter's step son, who would have been about 14 yrs old at the time of Kirsti's marriage and about age 23 when they died with her step-son, Pehr age about 16 when Kirsti died

Jon and Kirsti's oldest son, Emret would have been about age 9 when Kirsti died.

- children, with head [or first listed], son, Jon Jonsson born 23 Nov 1833, and married 1863 and with 2 children
- and the rest of the children, with the 2 oldest from his first marriage
and, 6 children with Jon Jonsson (born 1807) and Kersta Thoresdotter


- for each child, follow their entry pages




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General:


also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A4rna; copied, .... The two parishes Särna and Idre were originally part of Norway but were occupied by an expedition of Swedish peasants from Älvdalen in 1644. The 1645 Treaty of Brömsebro was ambiguous regarding the status of the parishes, but when the exact path of the border was to be decided in 1751 Norway accepted a border west of Idre and Särna. In 1971 the three municipalities Särna, Idre (which itself had been split off from Särna in 1916) and Älvdalen were amalgamated to form the present municipality of Älvdalen.

also: https://www.spottinghistory.com/view/2337/sarna-old-church/ ; copied .... The old church in Särna was built between 1684-1697 and the tower erected in 1706. It was partially left to decay in 1880s when the new church was completed. The restoration was carried out in 1953-1954. The former altarpiece is painted in 1689 by Israel Eriksson and the current in 1775 by Anders Berglin. The pulpit dates from 1728.

also: http://bookidre.visitdalarna.se/en/to-do/a199116/s%C3%A4rna-new-church/showdetails?filter=g%3D4788%3Bc%3D13626
copied ... Former church in Sarna. Sarna was old church still stand, but which was abandoned when the new church was built. The new church was built in the 1860s, but was inaugurated only on Michaelmas Day 1879

also: http://sarnachronicles.weebly.com/the-chronicles-of-sarna/category/birch ; this website link is by a local photographer - contains many photos of the the Särna area

also: flicker has a number of photos of the area ^520,540

  Noted events in her life were:

1. Residence, 1828-1847, 1828-1847, Särna, Kopparberg län, Sweden. ⁵⁴¹ Locality: Hede By (Trång)

2. Migration - 1846, 14 Apr 1846, Särna, Kopparberg län, Sweden. ⁵⁴² Locality: Hede By, Trång

3. Residence, 1848-1857, 1848-1857, Särna, Kopparberg län, Sweden. ⁵⁴³ Locality: Hede By (Träng garden)

Family history from Särnaheden: 27 Jun 1951, Särna, Kopparberg län, Sweden

Family history from Särnaheden (see below for notes)

A May day in 1859 drowned with horse on the Hedefjord at Heden Trång Jo Jonsson (born 1807) [d. Ä.] from Trånggården in Heden and his second wife, Kersta Toresdotter from Norway. They left 6 underage children in scarce circumstances, the last 2 were twins and only 3 years old.

For the children's upkeep it was common in the communities for those who were financially better off would help and assists others. It was an unwritten law, but an old moral order in such situations. For those living today, we have reason for quiet reflection to compare the future opportunities for contemporay large families. Then you realize perhaps better what circumstances were for a poor, orphaned minor brood must have been presented with.

Their parents had been over the lake by horse and on the other side they picked moss and birch (björkris, leaves or foliage but possibly birchbark or twigs) for feed for the cattle, since there was a feed shortage. On their return they came too close to the strong current (rapids) and drowned. Emergency calls were heard from the drowning, by the nearest neighbors, but no one appeared in time to their rescue.

Trånggården stood about 100 meters north of the present Klittgården in Heden. It was later sold and moved to another place within the village.

The future of the children, all of whom lived to an old age, told by Busk Jonas Jönsson in Särnaheden: The son Tobias moved to the village of Sörberget in Särna, eventually married and lived there. The son Emret moved to the village Gördalen i Särna, later married and moved to the village Linnäs on the other side the national border at Gördalen. The son Johan came to Sjögården, Heden, married a wife from Norway, and remained there [Sjögården]. The daughter Karin moved to Gördalen, returned to her hometown after about 40 years and died unmarried at Särna in an old age home. The twin brother Jo (Jon) first came to Holsgården in Särna, then to the Pingstegården in Östanomsjön, where he later married. The twin sister Sigrid came to Dammgården in Heden, where she grew up, later married with Jomo Jo Olsson in Heden. In addition, Jo Jonsson Trång's older son from his first marriage went by the name of Jo Lill Trång [Jo, little Trång] and was self-sufficent.

Source: Mora Newspaper, June 27, 1951; By Busk Jonas Jönsson, Särnaheden.


Notes:

(1). This is a basic translation by Rueben D Grue, 11 Jan 2015 and 17 Oct 2017. Original from: http://www.sarnaturism.se/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Busk-Jonas-19510627-Släkthistoria-från-Särnaheden.pdf
(2). This article records the wrong date of death. According to the Husförhör book (Husförhör AI:6a, 1848-1857, page 100; locality, Hede By, Trång), Kersta Toresdotter died on 25 May 1856 (although in the burial book, her death is recorded as 21 May 1856; C:4, image 13 no 11). Jon Jonsson died on 13 Sept 1857, born 1807) (C:4, image 14 no 3). See my Legacy data and sources.
(3). Hedefjord on the Swedish Karnatan maps is named Hedarfjörden which appears to be a widening of the river Störån (almost like a large lake) starting at Idre and flowing southeast to Särna.
(4). Jon Jonsson (born 1807) was the father of 9 children from his 2 marriages, with the oldest, Jon, age 24 when his father died. Jon Jonsson and Kersta Toresdotter (born 1816 in Norway) had 6 children. This documents says that the twins (Jon and Sigrid) were 3 years old, but in fact they were only about 2 weeks old when Kersta Toresdotter died.
(5). The Husförhör volume AI:6b, 1848-1868, page 112, (locality, Hede By, Trång), records Jon Jonsson (born 1833) married in 1863) with a son Jo, born in 1866 and a son Per, born 1867. The other children of Jon Jonsson (born 1807) and Kersta Toresdotter are living in the same place. By the time of the next volume, (AI:7, 1870-1880), Kersta's children are at various places with the exception of her son, Johan Jonsson (born 1849) living on the homeplace in Heden.

Biographical Sketch: 29 Nov 2017

Biographical Sketch: Kirsti Thoresdatter Grue (1816-1856)


Written by Rueben D Grue, 29 Nov 2016 ©2017, All rights reserved



Kirsti Thoresdatter Grue was a sister to my second great grandfather, Simon Thoresen Grue (1823-1903). She was born on Gruva farm, in Tolga Parish, Hedemark, Norway on 12 Feb 1816, the third child (of 14 children) of Thore Jonsen Grue and Kari Broen (Broplass). Kirsti's family moved a number of times while she was young with the last recorded farm as Norgaard (possibly Nergaard) when she was confirmed on 17 Jun 1932.

She is recorded as leaving Tolga parish on 4 Jun 1845 for Røros parish. However, the Røros parish records do not record her coming into Røros, nor is she recorded as leaving Røros parish. Three sources note that she had left Norway for Sweden (see my Legacy data for actual source citations). Klokkervang by Thoralf Grue notes that she "married and moved to Sweden". The Bygebok for Os says that she left Tolga for Røros parish in 1845. And, the Sweden Church records note that she had moved into Särna parish Kopparberg län on 14 Apr 1846 and moved to the village or locality of Heden. She subsequently is married to Jon Jonsson (Trång) on 2 Nov 1846. They lived at the farm known as Trånggården (I have not been able to find on a map the actual location of this farm in Heden).

Jon Jonsson and Kirsti Thoresdatter had 6 children (Jon Jonsson had 3 children with his first wife who had died in 1843). As with most people at this time and in most places in Särna parish in Sweden, life would have been quite hard and difficult. They likely had a small root vegetable garden, maybe had a horse, a cow or two, maybe some chickens, possibly a hog, and likley some sheep. Most of the time was likely spent trying to clear some of land of trees and shrubs, working at improving the land and maybe harvesting small crops. Of course, time was also spent hunting and fishing. I'm not sure of social gatherings, but there likely was some visiting with neighbors. There likely was some church activities locally, but they would have had to travel to Särna (a distance of about 10 kms/7 miles) for church, and this was likely at least a couple hours away on foot over a forest trail, so they may not have gone to the church often.

Through a general search, I came across a post of a short article from the Mora newspaper in 1951, "Family history from Särnaheden (written by Busk Jonas Jönsson; see Legacy data for a basic translation of this article). Reviewing the Sweden Church records, I have noted that there are some errors in this article.

In late Mar 1856, Jon Jonsson and Kirsti Thoresdatter had been across the lake Särnsjön (or Hedefjorden). It is possible that some of the older children had also gone with them. This was actually a widening of the river Störån that at places was at least 200 meters in width. They had gone over to the other side to gather moss and birch (björkris, leaves or foliage but possibly birchbark or twigs) for feed for the cattle, since there was a feed shortage. When they were returning, near rapids they had fallen into the river/lake and according to the article they were drowned. In the later part of March it would seem that the lake or river would have been frozen, but with this being a river, likely a current was flowing under the ice resulting in various thickness of the ice. However, using the Swedish "Kartoran" map there appears to be a narrowing a couple of kilometers or so north of the current village of Heden - it is possible that this is the location of the rapids noted in the newspaper article? And another question or possibility is that over the years the widening of the river may have been due to partial dams or locks that were built, and in the mid-1800's, there may have been a much more defined river channel.

The newspaper article notes that "they were drowned". The Sweden church records record Kirsti's death as 21 Mar 1856. This date is according to the death/burial records, but 25 Mar in noted in the Husförhör or household book. It is not clear if she died the day her and her husband came back from gathering foliage. Jon Jonsson's death is recorded as 13 Sept 1857, about 1.5 years after Kirsti's death; it is possible that Jon's death was related to injuries on the date of the drowning of Kirsti. The newspaper article implies that both Kirsti and Jon were drowned on the same day, since "emergency calls or screams were heard from the drowning, by the nearest neighbors, but no one appeared in time to their rescue." This is not likely the case, although the story may be only referring to Kirsti's drowning and over the years, it evolved to include both Jon and Kirsti.

Jon and Kirsti had 6 children. The oldest was Emret (or Embret) who was 9 years old when his mother died. The youngest children were twins (born 1856), Jon and Sigrid '96 they were only about 3 weeks old when their mother died. Sweden Church records show that after Jon Jonsson (born 1807) died in 1857, all of the children were living at the home place at Heden with Jon's oldest son (Jon Jonsson born 1833) and his wife. By 1899, Jon Jonsson and Kirsti's children had moved to various places/farms throughout Särna parish. You can view their families and descendants by following my Legacy data or viewing my genealogy web page at www.tree.grue.ca .

Further research regarding about Kirsti Thoresdatter Grue would included researching more information on her death, although it is unlikely more information could found. Perhaps a local history of the area may provide more information about the life of the Heden area.

Kirsti married Jon Jonsson on 2 Nov 1846 in Särna, Kopparberg län, Sweden.⁵³⁵ (Jon Jonsson was born on 15 Jun 1807 in Särna, Kopparberg län, Sweden ⁵⁴¹ and died on 13 Sep 1857 in Särna, Kopparberg län, Sweden ^543,544.)