Simen Mortensen Hulbækdal

   Another name for Simen was Simen Mortensen.

  General Notes:

Biographical Sketch for: Simen Mortensen Hulbaekdal (1680-1752)



Written by Rueben D Grue, 25 Jan 2013; revised 9 Oct 2013


The first known Grue ancestor was Simen Mortensen Hulbækdal. It is believed that he was born about 1680 in the northern part of Hedmark County, Norway at Øver Rendal parish (Upper Rendalen). Apparently there are no parish records for this area or time period. It is also believed he died about 1752 at Tolga. Most sources suggest that birth and death records for Simen Mortensen are not available. However, the Norway Digitized Probate Documents indicate his death in 1752. Some sources indicate that Simen Mortensen's father was Morten Knutsen Undset and that Morten's father was Knut Mortensen. Although this is likely to be true, I have not been able to find any collorabrating records of this. Ivar Sæter in his book, "Tolgen" (page 80) suggests he came from Gudbrandsdalen. This is quite a bit further south of the Rendalen/Tolga area and so this is unlikely. No other sources indicate this. Perhaps Simen Mortensen's ancestors had originally come from the Gudbrandsdalen area?

Simen Mortensen Hulbækdal came to the Tolga clerical district in the early 1700's. It has been recorded that he had first cleared land on the farm Haugene - this cleared land became known as Hulbaekdal (in the land register known as the "matrikkel", the farm was named as Hulbekkdalen). Locally, the farm was known as Simagarden. The tax appraisal/valuation of 1728 shows that Simen Mortensen was the owner of Hulbaekdal. He first lived in a mud hut and possibly he was one of the first to be involved in the copper smelter hut at Tolga (Ivar Sæter's book, page 80, 82-83). Simen Mortensen is recorded in the records/accounts of the Tolga smelter. It appears that he was a well respected since one of his jobs was to distribute pay to other workers. He was also the best salaried person at the smelter
(Klokkervang by Thoralf Grue, page 3).

Simen Mortensen Hulbaekdal was married twice. His first wife was known as Anne Andersdatter (born about 1684 in Tolga). Simen and Anne had 4 children: Anders Simensen born 1715, Eli Simensdtr born 1717, Guri Simensdtr born 1720, and Morten Simensen born 1722. I have not been able to confirm the birth dates of Simen and Anne's children. I also have found little evidence that Eli and Guri were children of Anne Andersdtr, however it is likely. Simen Mortensen Hulbaekdal's second marriage was to Magdalena Jonsdotter who was most likely born in Särna, Kopparberg County, Sweden. Apparently Magdalena went by the name Magnhild in Norway. Many sources have indicated that neither Simen or Magnhild were buried at Tolga. There does not seem to be an explanation for this in regards to Simen. A number of sources report that Magnhild had been living with her son, Jon Simensen Grue at Gruva and that one day she had decided to walk to Langen where there was a summer cabin on the grazing lands in the mountains. But she never returned and was not heard of again (this story was recorded by a number of sources, including Thoralf Grue, John Midtdal, and was told to me by Eliv Grue when I was in Norway in 1980).




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"Ancestry.com Public Member Tree 'PGalliath Public Member Tree owner PGalliath'," database, Ancestry.com (www.ancestry.com : accessed 6 Sep 2013), Simen Mortensen Hulb family data , link
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/5335799/person/-1467733763/facts
[ 2 Jan 2022, access: Patrice Galliath uploaded/updated a Family Tree on Rootsweb as of 20 Sep 2020;
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Grue, Per Harold. Klokkervang 1822 - 1997. Self published, 1997
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Johannes Rye Røste " Simen Mortensen Undset [Rugsveen Nedre] ". Database. www.geni.com. 3 Sep 2008.

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[this link no longer active; 2 Jan 2022]

  Research Notes:

See Biographical Sketch (in General notes)

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1. source: Orville Movold (personal correspondence - 1983; photocopy of family history page; translation from Mary Grue, Oct 1983; Rueben Grue, January 2005 - basic/literal translation); photocopy pages - Orville Movold indicated a cousin (John Midtdal, a professor at the University of Olso), "has supplied me with over 90 pages of geneology, dating back to the 1700's";


Simen Mortensen born about 1680, died about 1752 was first married to Ane Andersdatter (several pieces of information missing).
They first cleared land and operated the farm Hulbækdal (Simagarden), Tolga.
Children:
1. Anders [Simensen], birth about 1715, burial, 1 Jan 1781; 65 3/4 years old
Anders was the next farmer on Simagarden.
2. Morten [Simensen], born about 1723, burial, 31 May 1801, 78 years old;
married to Berit Larsdtr. Nordvang, Dalsbygda, born about 1731, burial 16 May 1813, 82 years old.
Morten was the farmer of Mortensgard, partitioned or divided from Simagarden.

Simen Mortensen second marriage to Magdalena (Magnhild) Jonsdatter, born in Sarina in Sweden [see note below]
Children:
3. Jon [Simensen], born about 1729, burial 7 June 1807, 78 years old;
first married to Sigrid Estensdtr. Grue, born about 1734, burial 9 Jan 1774, 40 years old. Jon had good capability (intelligence) and was further instructed from priest, Schjelderup. Later he was sexton and teacher in Os. Farmer of Grue, Dalsbygda.
4. Eli, married to Ole Olsen Sæter, Vingelen
5. Guri, married to Ole Estensen Båtmann


Simen Mortensen obtained in 1728 from Tolgasgard's owner a plot of land cleared on Hulbækmoen and it was the farm Hulbækdal, in daily speech called Simagarden. Simen, according to tradition, is said to come from Rendalen. In Jacob B. Bull's book of family and relations in upper Rendal, one cannot find the name Morten, but in the payroll list for the Tolgen smelter, one can discover Simen Undset from Rendalen, the head of that smelter, and it is possible that it is the man that is the pioneer of Simagarden. ( from Tolga - Gards og Slektshistorie - * see below, point 3)

Under the farm Rugsveen nedre or (also known as) søndre Undset, is mentioned Knut Mortensen Undset, born 1614, died 1688. From a (solid/source) researcher, he was the building contractor for several churches, including Kvikne church in 1652 and Vingelen church in 1653 and Eidsberg Church. He had a son, Morten Knutsen, born 1630, died 1734 and there was a lodging/residence that was left behind to his son, Simen Mortensen, who is identical with the first farmer of Simagarden. This should agree with the age of the father who was born in 1630. This goes for the farm Rugsveen, and he was the cottager/farmer in 1695 (see Jacob B Bull). (*from Tolga - Gards og Slektshistorie * see below, point 3)

Magdalena was known in writing and speech in Norway as Magnhild. There is something mysterious with both Simen's and Magnhild's death. He is not found among the people buried in Tolga. Magnhild lived to be very old and lived in her later years with her son at Gruen. One summer day she wanted to go to Langen, where they had their sæter (cabin in the mountains where cattle grazed). So she walked to the farm [to the sæter], but was not heard from again.


*** NOTE:
- Magdalena's birth - Särna, in Älvdalen Municipality, Dalarna län (Co),
[abt 50 kms south and east of Irdre, Sweden where Esten Jonsen Grue, born 1754 had lived];

for genealogy purposes this area was previously covered under Kopparbergs län [ from - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalarna_County ... "The Kopparberg's län (literally Copper Mountain County) was finally created by royal decree in 1647. In 1997, the name of the county was changed to Dalarna County.] [ according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Särna ..... "The two parishes Särna and Idre were originally part of Norway but were occupied by Swedish farmers in 1644. The 1645 Treaty of Brömsebro was ambiguous regarding the status of the parishes, but when the exact path of the border was to be decided in 1751 Norway accepted a border west of Idre and Särna." Särna/Idre is around 100 kms east of the Norway border and about 150 kms south and east from Tolga, Norway ].

- other sources have recorded her birth in Jämtland Co, Sweden but have not indicated a parish or town. Österlund, is one of the main centers in Jämtland, and is about 250 kms further north and a bit east of Särna (Österlund is about 250 kms east of Trondheim, Norway)


2. source: www.tomren.org; and, worldconnect.rootsweb.com (contact Patrice Galliath; Patrice GGG@aol.com)

[ Jul 2012 - www.tomren.org no longer active --- use wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com, but only for the info from Patrice ]

- uses the family name Hulbækdal, and then Gruva
- gives descendants of Simen Mortensen Hulbækdal, as well as his ancestors
- notes both marriages
- Simen Mortensen's as Morten Knutsen, born 1630 - Morten Knutsen's father as Knut Mortensen Undset (born 1614 and died 1688)
- source, tomren.org indicates information from Tolga Bygdebok, Vol 1, page 260 & 261 ? likely Tolga - Gards og Slektshistorie, page 260 & 261


3. Source: Tolga - Gards og Slektshistorie, pages 260-261 (basic/literal translation, Rueben Grue, July 2008)

The first to clear land and countryside on Hulbækdal was called / had the name of Simen Mortenson. This is still known in everyday language as Simargarden. (Orville Movold's correspondence has the same paragraphs and so was likely copied from "Tolga - Gards ...) see above 2 paragraphs, under point 1)

Simen, according to tradition, is said to come from Rendalen. In Jacob B. Bull's book of family and relations in upper Rendal, one cannot find the name Morten, but in the payroll list for the Tolgen smelter, one can discover Simen Undset from Rendalen, the head of that smelter, and it is possible that it is the man that is the pioneer of Simagarden. ( from Tolga - Gards og Slektshistorie - * see below, point 3)

Under the farm Rugsveen nedre or (also known as) søndre Undset, is mentioned Knut Mortensen Undset, born 1614, died 1688. From a (solid/source) researcher, he was the building contractor for several churches, including Kvikne church in 1652 and Vingelen church in 1653 and Eidsberg Church. He had a son, Morten Knutsen, born 1630, died 1734 and there was a lodging/residence that was left behind to his son, Simen Mortensen, who is identical with the first farmer of Simagarden. This should agree with the age of the father who was born in 1630. This goes for the farm Rugsveen, and he was the cottager/farmer in 1695 (see Jacob B Bull)

Simen Mortensen was born about 1680 and was the first one that started or opened the smelter hut/cabin at Tolga in 1700.





++++ [ 27 Jan 2011 ]

- this source (Togla - Gards ... ) refers to Jacob Bull's book - the edition I reviewed at UND was published in 1983, but the library catologue for UND states that this is a "Reprint. Orginally Published: 1940. (Tolga book was published in 1968). Therefore, it is likely that this reference is to another page of the book I reviewed at UND, but had not photocopied).

The edition at UND and the page that I reviewed in May 2008 (under the farm Rugsveen Nedre) does not indicate a son Simen Mortenson - it lists 3 children of Morten Knutsen, born 1630 - Knut, born 1670 (but there is a question mark beside Knut); Berger, born 1672; Kirsten, born 1675; Peder, born 1679. BUT I may not have photocopied all relevant pages
--- see Morten Knutsen Undset and Knut Mortensen Undset -- doesn't say a lot, but ............


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4. Klokkervang, 29 June 1822 to 29 June 1922 by Thoralf Grue

There are 2 booklets: [1] Thoralf Grue, 29 June 1822 to 29 June 1922. This was available on-line for awhile but is no longer available. However, in Aug 2012, I had reviewed the information, made a basic translation of some excerpts. This document has been uploaded to:
my Google Drive, Computers (2), 28 Jan 2020 - crashed ...Grue Family Tree...Research Articles.

[2] Per Harold Grue, 1997. He had updated some of the work of Thoralf and added some additional information on Gruvåsen. He also had some updates on some family members. I had received some pages from Barb Grahn (Grue in 2014) - she has a copy of Per Harold's complete book. I had reviewed the pages that Barb had sent, made a basic translation of some pages. In early Jan 2022, I saved Per Harold's pages, and the pages that I had translated to: Google Drive, Computers (2), 28 Jan 2020 - crashed ...Grue Family Tree...Research Articles


5. Source: Norway Parish Registers - Rendal or Tolga [ 10 Jan 2010 ]

--- no listing of death/burial for Simen Mortensen


6. From: Tolgen by Ivar Sæter, 1908 - http://www.wangensteen.net/Bibliotek/tolgen/index.html
[ basic/literal translation by Rueben D Grue, July 2012; original Norwegian recorded in Ivar Sæter document, Jon Simensen Grue family file ]


page 80 (side 86) - Hulbækdal --- The first settler was Simen and presumbably he was from Gudbrandsdalen It is said that he had first lived in a mud hut. A son was in a horrible accident with a cow [?] and another [son] came to Mortensgaarden. Anders stayed home [at Simagarden-Hulbækal; NOTE: Anders Simensen Hulbædkal, born 1715; but in next following sentence, Ivar Sæter actually refers to a grandson, Anders Simensen who was born 1780]. He [Anders Simensen, born 1780] left a daughter Beret, and his widow was married again to Lars Knudsen from Vingelen (on page 80, under the farm Hulbækdal, the translation is "He died and his widow (Olava from Henriksgaard) married again to Lars Gammelstuen from Vingelen"), with whom she had 2 daughters - Anne and Ingeborg.

page 82-83 (side 88-89) - footenote ?

- With the appraisal / valuation of 1728, Simen Mortensen was the owner of Hulbækdal and from this [?] its name was probably Simagaarden. Approximately in 1800, it was farmed by Anders [Anders Simensen, born 1780]: he left a daughter Beret and his widow was married again to Lars Knudsen with whom she had 2 daughters - Anne and Ingeborg .... A daughter of his first marriage Beret married John Paulsen from Paulsgaard. They had 4 sons (Anders, Lars, Paul and John) and 1 daughter, Olava. Lars traveled to America in 1870. John, the youngest was a teacher. Olava married Nils Nilsen Bakken from Hodaien and they also traveled to America. Anders the eldest took over the farm after his father in 1888 and then gave/left half to his brother, Paul Johnsen and in the land register his farm was named Dalsgjelten. Anders died in 1892. He was married to Petronille Halstensdatter Lien; he left a son, Anders. His widow married in 1895 to John Olsen Perflatgard who died in 1904; he left a daughter.



page 80 (side 86) - Mortensgaarden - The first user/farmer was from Hulbækdal named Morten (hence, the name). After him, his son Per had gone to Røros to work and has since build Pederslien [likely Morten's son Per took over the farm Mortensgaarden when he came back from Røros]. [ Den første bruger var Hublækdal og heg Morten (deraf navnet ). Efter ham hans søn, Per, som maattesælge til Røros verk, og som siden byggede i Pederslien ]

page 77, 78 (side 83, 84) . The following were the other 10 cottage farmers or renters on Hulbækmoen : ... Simon Mortensen (Mortensgaard) [ ? - it should be Morten Simensen (the son of Simen) from Mortensgaard, since Morten`s daughter`s birth indicates residence as Hulbechmoen ??? ;; however, the reference here could still be Simon Mortensen since he may have lived also at Mortensgaard before or during the time that his son was there; the son could still have been at Hulbækmoen when the daughter was born. ??? it is not clear what year the comment "...10 cottage farmers ..." was made ]

It is stated in the tax statement [the year is not clearly stated, but a couple of sentences earlier the year 1728 is noted] that they (the workers) are readily prepared to pay a tax when they get logs from the forest that are necessary for household use. According to the order the workers owe: .... Neil Svendsens widow, Anne Jørgensdaatter and Simon Mortensen 1/8 calve skins each. Thereafter the name of the farm was Holbekmoen.

In the land book for 1728 it is stated that the common goods of the farmers of Hulbækmoen were 2 and 3/8 skins [the owners are listed]: ........... Anders Simensen's widow, Margrethe and Paul Hansen (it isn't clear if this refers to them together or if Paul Hansen is on of the other owners - 9-10 are listed if Paul is a separate owner).


7. Land registers - Matrikkel

a. Oluf Rygh -- Norwegian Farm Names

- In the late 19th century a new and complete land registry was compiled in Norway. A central member of the land register commission was the Norwegian philologist and archaeologist Oluf Rygh. On the basis of his work in the commission, Rygh started to publish a complete catalogue over the names of the main Norwegian farms (45 000 in 1886).
NOTE: for Tolga; county - Hedemarkens amt; municipality Tolgen; parish Tolgen; then clicked small box beside a farm name, then show

#41 v.3, p.415

41,16 . Hulbækdalen. Mentes kaldet sí2maga£en [ ???, likely a variant spelling with '2' and 'pound' as wild cards .... Simagarden , but possibly a name of Sammi orgin ????]

1ste Led i det sidste Navn af Mandsnavnet Simon. [ ?, Danish - 1st Stage of the last name of the man name Simon .... thus the farm name and the person living there is Simen Hulbækdal(en) ??? ]

v.3, p.414
41. Hulbækmoen . Udt. hø2£bækkmó:'n (Grændenavn) [ ??? ].

Ligger omkring en Bæk, som falder i Tolga. 1ste Led i Bækkens Navn
kan være enten hol n., Hul, eller hylr m., Høl, dybt, stille Sted i et Vandløb. [ Located about a brook, which falls in Tolga. 1st Stage of brook Name, can be either kept N., Hole, or hylr m, Hoel, deep, quiet place in a watercourse. ]

v.3, p.415
41,12. Hulbækmoen. Kaldes ó2£ó£saga£en. [ ???]

D. e. Ole Olsens Gaard.

v.3, p.415
41,20. Mortensgaarden . Udt. mó2£tinnsga£en. [ ??? ]


b. 1886 Matrikkel

# 124 a with bruksnr 16, Hulbækdalen --- Jon Paulsen, under gård # 41, Hulbækmoen


c. 1838 Matrikkel

- Hulbækdal - Lars Knutsen

- Mortensgaarden - Thore Estensen

d. 1865 Norway Census

John Pouvls. farm - Hulbækdahl, # 124 [ father of Lars Jonsen Dahl, emigrated to US ]
- age 43 to be reached in 1866 <1823;> NOT Confirmed: Tolga Ministerialbok, page 36, line 26, Jon Paulsen born 28 Jul 1823, bap 17 Aug, father Paul Sivertsen and mother Ingeborg Olsdtr; same father in the Tolga Klokkerbok, page 28, line 6 [ ? father is Paul Sivertsen, not Paul Svensen as indicated in the 1801 Census for gard 41 ..... SO, either the spelling in 1801 is incorrect and he was married again to Ingeborg Olsdatter .... there is a marriage record, 29 Mar 1799 Paul Siversen (residence as Tolgen) married to Ingeborg Olsdatter (residence as Ejde)

e. 1801 Norway Census

Poul Svensen, age 48; farm number 41, widower after first marriage




8. Research Article, Guri Simensdtr and Eli Simensdtr Hulbaekdal - Grue [ 22 Feb 2015 ]

Conclusion - Guri and Eli Simensdtr Hulbækdal / Grue -- sisters to our Jon Simensen Grue, born 1729 ???

It is probable that Guri and Eli are sisters to our Jon Simensen Grue, born 1729, therefore the daughters of Simen Mortensen Hulbækdal, born 1680. However, at this point there is no convincing evidence of this conclusion. Further research is needed.

On my Legacy database, I have decided to include both Guri and Eli as 'half-sisters' to Jon Simensen Grue , born 1729. I have recorded their mother as Anne Andersdatter, citing IGI as the source, BUT this source has a low level of surety - #1, marginal evidence. Although there is little evidence of their mother, given the confirmation record on the Norway Parish Records with the birth of Guri around 1720 and the record of death for Eli (birth around 1717), their mother could not have been Magnhild Jonsdatter.

- point 9, see below - this supports Guren or Guri has the daughter of Simen Mortensen from his first marriage


9. Jan Erik Aas' excell sheet; http://www.jeaas.com/sk-roros.htm
Selections from the mining and smelter community in Røros and Tolga [ likely a skifte - probate/change record ]
- to find, click on link, then "ctrl F", type, Simen Mortensen [ note: this is NOT on Digitalarkivet for Tolgen; 13 Jan 2015, but see below ]

Tolgen 5/4 1752 s.839
Magdalena Jonsd. Tolga hytte + levende live enke e/Simen Mortensen
Mannens barn fra 1.ekteskap:
1. Anders Simensen 35 år
2. Morten Simensen 30 år
3. Guren Simensd. g.m/Ole Estensen Bakman
Barn med enkem:
Jon Simensen 25 år


** on these sheets, the date is usually the date that the event is recorded, so death or the change because of the death is 1752
- this isn't clear - it somewhat makes it appear that the death in 1752 is Magdalena - because the Tolga ... + " alive widow e / Simen Mortensen" --- this might mean, Simen Mortensen is a widow because of the death of his first wife
BUT, if this was the case, then the word should be enkemann, a widower, rather than enke

SO, the most likely conclusion is: Magdelena Jonsdtr; Tolga smetler/cabin and living widow of Simen Mortensen; so 1752 is likely the death of Simen Mortensen


levende - live or living
live - from liv, meaning life
enke - widow (A widow is a woman whose spouse has died); enkemann - widower

++++; BUT at Digitalarkivet;

Digitized Probate Rercords, Sør-Trøndelag fylke, Røros bergret Skifteprotokoll 3A 05 , 1742-1756
pages 426-431
link: http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/24718/426/?size=full&mode=0 ; last access, 2 Jan 2022 likely a bit of format change and update on Digitalarkivet from first access on 15 Jan 2015 - the translations from 2015 are as noted below but page numbers are changed based on the new update on Digitalarkivet

- 5 Apr 1752 ; clearly shows, Simen Mortensen from Tolgen with Magdelena, [also known as] Maglie Johnsdotter,

page 426, 2nd side
.. line 9: hustra e Magdelena or [?] Maglie Johnsdotter ..... [ his wife, widow Magdelena ]
.. line 11: ..... mannens ... [1st marriage ?] 1), Anders Simensen, 35 yrs; Morten Simensen, 30 yrs; Guren Simensdatter married to Ole Estensen Batmand [maybe Bakmand]; then, ....................... [2nd marriage ?], John Simensen, 25 yrs
page 426 bottom and 427 both sides: - itemized list of contents ?
page 428, side 1: . ??; bottom of page: .... John Simensen .... ?; then starting with last 3rd line, Anders Simensen
page 428, 2nd side: ... ?? ... Anders Simensen mentioned ... ; then abt 1/2 page, Anders, son Morten Simensen ... [?], the Guri Simensdtr .... Ole Estensen Bakmand ...; then dattern 10 ?, Anders 70 nd?, Morten and John, 20 nd?; then John Simensen ....?, then Anders Simensen ....? then Magadelena Johnsdotter
page 429, 1st: .... Magadelena Johnsdotter ...?, then Anders Simensen ....?, then Morten Simensen ... ?, then John Simensen ... ? then, Guren Simensdtr ... Ole Estensen Bakmand ...? ; then issued .... John ... Anders
page 429, 2nd side: issued .... Anders ... Morten ... John ... Guren (with husband) ... Magedelena ....
page 430, both sides: itemized lists...? ; bottom of page 847, Anders, with itemized list that continues to page 848
page 430, both sides then Morten and itemized list [ althougth this may be an itemized list and then the name Morten; then itemized list and name John Simensen
page 431: itemized list and the name Guren Simensdatter .. with husband
end at 2/3 of page 431, 2nd side ... signed, 26 May 1752 .... ?

NOTE: it is not clear if this record started on 5 Apr or if this was the date of death and the probate was finalized on 26 May?

NOTE:
Eli or Elen, as a daughter is not mentioned nor can I find the name Ole Olsen Sæter or simply Ole Olsen in this record

NOTE: the name of his first wife is not recorded

..

Summary
The Probate documents are 10 pages (on both sides) - it looks like it itemizes the contents/estate. Several times the names of the children are recorded and it also seems that certain line items went to individual children. For the most part the handwriting is very, very difficult to read, and so I have not tried to translate

BUT, this record does not record daughter Eli (or some variation) - thus, either Eli was not a daughter OR she had already died (additionally, it is likely she did not have descendants.




9. a. General research --- see http://www.genealogieonline.nl/en/stamboom-raar/I33200.php [ 1 Aug 2012]

- some information on his descendants (similiar to the information recorded by Holly Tomren

b. General research -- http://www.nergaard.se/Family/start.html; [ 1 Aug 2012 ]

Berit Andersdtr Hulbækdal married to John Paulson Paulsgard, married 2 Jun 1848
- born 22 Jun 1821, Hulbækdal; died 29 Nov 1880, Hulbækdal




c. General reseach -- http://www.geni.com/people/Magnhild-Jonsdtr-Undset-Rugsveen-Nedre/6000000007329429060; Rolf Inge Holden, along with Johnannes Røste Rye data [ 1 aug 2012 ]

- Magnhild's birth in Starn, Sverige [ this is likely a typo - likely refers to Särna ??? ]
- her husband, Simen Mortensen Undset (Hulbækdal) - data transfers to Johannes Rye Røste
- son, Jon Simensen Hulbækdal (Simagarden) - includes data on his children, 2 marriages (Gjertrude transfers to Johannes Rye Røste data), then Tore Jonsen Grue (although link transfers to Per Morten Bolme data) - to 'our' Simen Thoresen (link transfers to John Midtdal data) to Thore Simensen



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- see Sigrid Undset note, my docs/grue genealogy/Jon S Grue, born 1729
----------- her family was from Osterdalen - surname from the "village" farm Undset of her grandmother ^{818,925,993,994,995,998,999,1000,1001,1002}

Simen married Ane Andersdtr in 1725.⁹⁹² (Ane Andersdtr was born in 1684 in Tolga, Hedmark, Norway ⁹⁸¹.)

Simen next married Magdalena (Magnhild) Jonsdotter, daughter of Jon and Guri. (Magdalena (Magnhild) Jonsdotter was born about 1690 in Sweden ^1003,1004 and died between 1752 and 1790 in Tolga, Hedmark, Norway ¹⁰⁰³.)