Karen Elise Halvorsdatter Norby

   Another name for Karen was Eliza.

  Research Notes:

1. Trysil -boka

2. Norway Parish Records

- Halvor Povelsen Nordby ( [?] )
- difficult to make out witnesses
- a home baptism, but I can't make out the name [ 10 Oct 2010 ]

3. Leaving Trysil, 1885 for America

- [date of "registration or application" ?] 13 June 1885
- it appears that she is the only one - there is another person, Oline Olsdatter [ Johnsdtr ?] on line 18, with the same registration date, but ??
- BUT starting with line 27, with same date Per Torgalsen Nordby, born 1826 and family (lines 28-37)

4. US Census - 1900, 1910, 1920, 1930 Port Townsend, Jefferson Co, WA - Peter Clements and Elisa and children; George, Clarence, Paul and Edward


1900
- Peter is listed as a Blacksmith; emigrated in 1864, 36 yrs in US, naturalized; rents home; born in Norway
- Eliza - emigrated in 1878, 22 yrs in US
- marriage is about 1888
- George is listed in 1900 born May 1890 in WA; Clarence R, and Paul N
- Eliza - 4 children, 3 living

1910
- Peter is a Blacksmith, own shop - born in MN
- Eliza, emigrated in 1884
- children, as above, but with Edward S, age 2 <1908>, born in WA

1920
- Peter - Blacksmith, own shop; emigrated 1858, naturalized 1864
- Eliza - emigrated 1889, naturalized 1889
- Clarence - machinist, automobiles
- Paul - Meat Cutter, butcher shop
- Edward, age 12

1930
- Eliza - Wd, emigrated 1885
- 825 [ Filmore ], owns home, value $1400, has a Radio
- Edward, Mechanic, Garage

Peter Clements not indexed in 1890-1892 WA State Census [ 25 Oct 2010 ]


5. Emigration
- Norway Parish Records correspond to Ancestors.....Norby, p 6
- [ 25 Apr 2011 ] - could not find a record on Emigrants from Olso or Kristiania -- there were no records for the year 1885; also - not on Ancestry.com New York Passenger Lists or the Canadian Passenger Lists


5. WA State Digital: death records
- Eliza Clements - father Henry Norby, mother P Skaret
- Peter G Clements, b abt 1858, birth place not recorded, but father Gilbert was born in Norway; died 25 Aug 1929; wife Eliza Clements
- note: Jefferson County Genealogical Society - index - Peter G Clements death 25 Aug 1929; Karen Elise Clements (Norby) died 16 Jan 1950


US Draft WWI
George H - born 20 May 1890; Port Townsend - doesn't give next of kin; work - Chauffer
Clarence Henry - born 30 Oct 1993; Port Townsend - no next of kin; work - Logger
Paul William - born 2 Sept 1896; Port Townsend; Peter G Clements as father; People's Market

SSDI
Paul - death May 1984; Port Townsend; birth 2 Sept 1896; SSN 534-09-6949
Edward ? death Oct 1985; Maple Valley WA; birth 26 Dec 1900; SSN 534-07-6791

6. Obit
Karen Elise, issue 19 Jan 1950; died on 14 Jan 1950
- resident since 1887
- widow of Peter Clements who ran a blacksmithing business for many years - he died 25 Aug 1929
- came to America in 1885
- Married in Rochester, MN in 1886
- in 1921 moved to Quilcene where they had a farm on the Little Quilcene River for a few years
- died in hospital after "lingering illness"
- survived by her brother, Peter Norby, and a sister, Mrs C H Olberg both of Port Townsend; three sons -
Henry, Tacoma; Sidney, Seattle; and Paul, Port Townsend; five grandchildren and 2 [great]grandchildren

Peter Clements, 26 Aug 1929
- born on 8 Jan 1858 [ this is different from WA death cert)
- born in Norway, came to US at 1 year of age
- suffered from a stroke many months ago; passed away at the family home on Fillmore Street
- retired from his own blacksmith shop in 1921 and went to Quilcene (in Jefferson Co, abt 50 kms south of Port Townsend); returned to Port Townsend 3 years ago <1926>
- survived by his wife, 2 brothers, a sister, and four sons, Henry of Hoodsport, and George, Paul, and Sidney of Port Townsend

7. Marriage +++ conflicting information
Conclusion: 24 Nov 188
- the MN Marriage Record from Steele Co is likely the most accurate and is closer to the original source and would have been recorded shortly after the event - would need to see the actual certificate to see if there were transcription errors
- the obits and Census (1886) information is likely given years later and could have been more based on the memory of sometime after Elise arrived in MN (1886);


8. [ 22 Apr 2011 ] --- no information on Peter Clements family found on genealogy.bank, US SSDI, ancestry, world connect

9. Findagrave id 162267433; Redmens Cemetery, Port Townsend
- includes a photo and the following posted comment:
"Born Karen Elise in Trysil, Elisa left Norway to start the family's immigration by coming to Minnesota in 1885. The following year her father came and they both worked to purchase passage for the rest of the family to come over. It was in Blooming Prairie where she met Peter Clements and they were married in nearby Rochester in 1887. The following year, after her parents' house burned down, Peter and his father-in-law went west to Washington state to procure work and obtain land. Peter opened a blacksmith business in Port Townsend in 1891 and it was there they raised their 5 children. After Peter died, Elisa bought a house on Fillmore Ave in Port Townsend and rented out rooms. ^{3651,3656,3657}

  Noted events in her life were:

1. Emigration - 1885, 13 Jun 1885, Leaving Trysil, Hedmark, Norway. ^3658,3659

2. Residence - 1900, 1 Jun 1900, Port Townsend, Jefferson Co, Washington, United States. ³⁶⁵⁰

3. Residence - 1910, 15 Apr 1910, Port Townsend, Jefferson Co, Washington, United States. ³⁶⁶⁰

4. Residence - 1920, 1 Jan 1920, Port Townsend, Jefferson Co, Washington, United States. ³⁶⁶¹

5. Residence - 1930, 1 Apr 1930, Port Townsend, Jefferson Co, Washington, United States. ³⁶⁶²

6. Residence - 1911, 1911, Port Townsend, Jefferson Co, Washington, United States. ³⁶⁶³ Home address: Berlin Avenue, SE corner
George's business: Tyler St and Wharf; Blacksmithing, Carriage and Wagon Merchant

7. Residence - 1915, 1915, Port Townsend, Jefferson Co, Washington, United States. ³⁶⁶⁴ Clements, Peter G (Lizzie), Blacksmith, Talyor
Home Address: 1602 Lincoln Street
also listed: Paul W driver People's Market; George; C Henry, blacksmith, PG Clements

Karen married Peter G Clements, son of Unknown and Unknown, on 24 Nov 1888 in Blooming Prairie, Steele Co, Minnesota, United States ^3650,3651.^,3652 (Peter G Clements was born in Jan 1860 in Norway,³⁶⁵⁰ died on 25 Aug 1929 in Port Townsend, Jefferson Co, Washington, United States ^3656,3665 and was buried on 27 Aug 1929 in Redman Cemetery, Port Townsend, Jefferson Co, Washington, United States ^3656,3666.)