John Simensen Grue

  Research Notes:

1. source: Ole Johan Nyass, Etteregister i tidsromment 1717-1969 for Grueslekten

indicates that he was a teacher, church leader, singer, and sexton; also indicates that he did not have any children

Translation (Eliv Grue, summer 1982): When John Simensen Grue (born 1804) became of legal age, he took the legal rights to the farm. In 1831 he gave one-half of the estate/farm to Per Jonsen Moseng and Eli Estensdtr Trøen Breen. In 1840 Jon Simensen Grue (born 1804) went to Tolga. He traded his farm called Nedre Grue (lower Grue) to Jon Olsen Jamt for Jamtgården in Tolga. At this time he also took back what he owned at Langen - haying meadows (slått) and forest (skog).




2. souce: www.awt.ancestry.com - under Breen; contact Patrice Galliath; PatriceGGG@aol.com) gives the name of wife as Sigrid Olsdtr Høsgarden

3. 1865 Norway Census has J. S. Grue age 62 <1803> and wife Sigrid Olsd age 67 <1798> living on the farm Sætersgaard, Fugelodden.
Also J.S. Grue is listed as churchsinger (Kirkesanger), farmer (Gaardbruger), and owner/freeholder (Selveier). Also lists in the household, Mekkel Andersen Lien (age 19, <1847>), Anne Pouvlsdtr (age 21) and Ranghilde Elida Anna Strand (age 16) as servants

NOTE: 1886 Matrikel Os has Jon Simensen [Grue, born 1804] as the owner/leasee of Sæter Bruksnr 2, gnr, 123 (Berg) with old løpernr 273b (and old gnr # 115)

The 1886 Matrikkel Tolga for Røsepladsen (farm 34; old gnr #25) has bruksnr# 1 as Røsegaarden; there is an Anders Mortensen on Bruks# 11 - Grinden øvre; Jon Simensen Grue (born 1804) is on Bruks# 9 - Støvolden m.m -- old or 1838 løpenr 92b ;; note that the farm for Jon Simensen Grue born 1804 on the 1838 matrikkel was (gnr 25, løpenr 92) leasee was Marin Baardsdtr, enken, on Støen ytre and in the 1801 census for gnr 25 was Jon Jonsen, age 50

The 1838 Matrikkel Os for farm Berg (old gnr # 3; new gnr 115) and new Løpenr 273a, Bruksnavn Gruben has leasee as Peder Jonsen (Moseng) and new Løpenr 273b, Bruksnavn Gruben has leasee as Jon Simonsen [Grue born 1804]





4. Os bygebok, page 54 [ pdf; John S Grue (born 1729) and Bergs ]
[ basic translation by Rueben D Grue, 1 Aug 2012 ]

Langen bnr.2; (Dativ: Langa); page 54 also has a photo of Jon S Grue

Jon Simenssen Grue (born 1804) was a teacher and churchsinger in Togla where he owned Jamtgarden. After selling Jamt Garden in 1876, Jon and his wife Sigrid moved to Langen and became permanent residents there. Earlier they had used Langen as pasture. [ Jon Simenssen Grue (f. 1804) var lærer og kirkesanger på Tolga der han eide Jamtgarden. Etter å ha solgt Jamtgarden i 1876 flytta Jon og kona Sigrid til Langen og ble fastboende der. Tidligare hadde de brukt Langen som sæter. ]

- also on page 54 there is another photo on the bottom of the page. The caption reads:

From the courtyard of Langen. One time they took tourists on Langen, both summer and winter. Here it is decorated for a party, with leaves around both front doors. The photograph is probably from 1953, when there were two anniversaries on the farm. During the summer months Marit Østergaardstrøen was a maid in Langen, age 60 on June 21 [1953 ] and Jon O. Grue age 50 July 16 [1953 - thus his birth was in 1903 ]


page 55, Ytergarden

1830-1840 - Jon Simensen Grue, born 1840 - see Langen
1840-1890
- Johannes Jonsen from Jamtgarden, Tolga .... Johannes Jonsen was the son of Jon Olsen, who Jon Simensen (Grue born 1804) had transferred or shifted with his father [Jon Olsen's father] for this part of Gruvgarden in 1840




5. From: Tolgen by Ivar Sæter, 1908 - http://www.wangensteen.net/Bibliotek/tolgen/index.html

page 12
-- ..... aaret 1855 i Tolgen .... kirkesanger Jon Grue ......
then, on second column: Following were with Røsjodalen's dairy in 1856 [ Følgender var med i Røsjodalens meieri i 1856 ]

Kirkesanger J S Grue .... Johannes Grue ...... Mikkel Prestlien .....

page 31 (side 36)

Parties stated the matter thus settled and signed the Protocol . ..... Thus it has been concluded and hereby confirmed on behalf of the Commission, consistent with its protocol under my hand and signature [?]:

Tolgenbakken J S Grue, 9 Oct 1854

[ Parterne erklærede sagen derved afgjort og underskrev protokollen ..... At saaledes er skeet og indgaaet, bekræftes herved paa kommissionens vegne, overensstemmende med dens protokol under min haand og segi ]




page 67 (side 73) - Jamtgaarden [Jamtgården]

[The} Jamt name derives from tenants from Jæmteland in Sweden and is very common in Norway, especially in the northern parts. In 1604 was a Jon Jamtlændig who was convicted on Søndmør because of a firearm exchange with the bailiff in 1599 [??]. In 1654, a Jon Jamt from Jemetland parish in Støren [farmed] and then in 1772 Knud Jorgensen Jamt lived on the farm/cabin at Tolgen. In 1854 Kotmoen and Jamthagen became apart of Jamtgaarden due to a land swap or exchange completed by churchsinger John S Grue. It is at the north end of Hagen, and the person who now owns has his farmland, after the houses were demolished.

--- Kotmoen og Jamthagen hørte med til Jamtgaarden som kirkesanger John S Grue tibyttede sig i 1834 --- Kotmoen and Jamthagen belonged to Jamtgaarden that was or whom [ presented/owned ?] or was swapped by Church Singer John S Grue ..... i 1854
OR
In 1854 Kotmoen and Jamthagen became apart of Jamtgaarden due to a land swap or exchange completed by churchsinger John S Grue

page 75 - Persætergaarden (Sætersgaarden) --- the first name [related to the farm] was Sæmund Johnsen. He had a daughter Kirsti who married Morten Mortensen from Blæsterhaugen on Tønset. They sold the place (and traveled to Inderøen) to Jon Grue, who again sold it to school [skoletomt - ?]. The same Morten was the brother of Frekek-Anders, father of the existing Morten Røseplads. [ Morten Røseplads ??? check with 1886 Matrikel

- farm Klokkerboligen. .... Anders ... sold it to Ole from Herdal, who later sold it to kirkesanger Grue. Grue sold it to Ole S Hulbækmoen and moved in his old age to Langen.


page 123 (side 131) --- The first election of members of the judicial district / assemby occured at Nysted, Tonset on 22 Jul 1837. The following are the elected members [ Det første valg paa medlemmer af Tolgen herredsstyre foregit paa Nysted i Tønset den 22de juli 1837. Til formænd valgtes:

for Tolgen parish [ hovesogn ], Paster Stensen 47 votes [ stemmer ] and kirkesanger John S. Grue 46 votes

The first Mayor [ordfører] of Tolga was Paster Stensen and the vice or deputy mayor was kirkesanger John S. Grue (on page 132 it is indicated that he had been a mayor also)

[ Note: this is most likely John S Grue born 1804 (Jon S Grue, born in 1729, died in 1807)
[ NOTE: Tolgen was created from the Tynset (Tønset) parish by Royal Proclamation on 30 Sept 1735 ]

page 122 (side 130) --- In 1822, the son of the deceased Simen Jonsen, Jon Simensen Grue, became the teacher in Tolgen; in his old age he settled at Langen.


6. Norway parish registers -- Døypte i Tolga prestegjeld 1786-1814 (Marie Tollan's transcription)

- parents residence - Gruen
- witnesses; Karen Jonsdtr (Moseng), Maren Persdtr (Østgaard), Ragnille Jonsdtr (Grue), Erich Olsen (Berring), Per Neilsen (Østgaard)


General info
bapitism

- John and Sigrid seemed to be listed as 'witness' to the bapitism of Iver M Prestlien. Usually the witnesses are related to the bapitised child, so what is the relationship?


7. Cemeteries - www.disnorge.no/gravminer

- gives birth and death dates; photo of tombstone
- residence as Simensgjelten


8. Klokkervang, page 10 [ 21 Nov 2012 - basic translation using google translate - Rueben D Grue)


- John Simensen, born 1804 married to Sigrid Olsdtr Høisen - they had no children

After receiving or obtaining some teaching from his uncle, Klokker Jon J Grue, he was constantly engage by 1819 as a teacher at Nøren and Os. Later he took a trip to Molde, where the uncle [farbor], Kristen Grue, and where he was a private teacher since his uncle did not have a teacher. There he also made some good wine. In 1833 he was the Churchsinger in Tolga.

... there are a number of other paragraphs

...last paragraph under John Simensen, page 10 ... Of [his] father's farm he retained sæter [Langan] and he lived his last years there. [He left] this property to his sister's daughter, Anne and her children who had faithfully helped and whom he evidently enjoyed in his old age. Anne's husband was his half-sister's son Jon Johannessen Gruen. [his half-sister was Marit Persdtr Grue].


[ Efter at ha faat litt undervisning av farbroren klokker Jon J Grue han i 1819 ansat som lærer på Nøren og ved Os. Senere var han en tur til Molde, hvor den anden farbror, Kristen Grue, for uten å være lærer hadde en private lærerskole. Der fik han ogsaa non gode vink. 1833 blev han anset som kirkesanger i Tolga ]

...........

............ [ Av fedregården beholdt han seteren Langen og de bodde han sine siste år og efterlot denne eiendom til søster dattern Anne og hennes barn som trufast hadde hjulpet og hygget han paa hans gamle dager. Annes mann var halvsøstersønnen Jon Johannessen Gruen ]

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John married Sigrid Olsdtr Høeisen. (Sigrid Olsdtr Høeisen was born about 1798.)