Karin Danielsdotter

   Another name for Karin was Karri Danielsdotter.

  Research Notes:

Birth and Death dates are uncertain.

--------------------------------- 15 Nov 2021

As indicated Karin's birth is not recorded in the Fryksände parish records. And as I indicated her marriage to Pålsson is also not recorded in the Fryksände parish records [see his notes]. The geni.com FT records her with the Finnish Family Name (FFN) of Moijainen. Using the website document "Skogsfinska släktnamn..." by Gabriel Bladh, Jan Myhrvold and Niclas Persson on Finnish Family Names, there are 2 spellings for the FFN, Moijainen and Moilainen. One person is recorded in as Daniel Persson Moijainen at Flatåsen, Nyskoga parish [but this parish was formed about 1873]. Nyskoga parish is about 25 kms to the north of the town of Östmark, and in earlier years was known as Norra Ny parish in Värmland.

My first step was to see about the possibility of her marriage in Norra Ny. For some reason, early marriage records are held under Ekshärad parish, and after reviewing records for 1746-1750, and then for 1745, I found their marriage"

Ekshärad (S) EI:2 (1733-1803) Page 21, 1st side, last entry: 12 Dec 1745
"drang Påhl Larrson from Rattsjöberget in ...[?] och Karin Danielsdotter from Flatåsen [Norra Ny]"

My second step was to see if I could find a birth record Karin in Norra Ny. I again reviewed 1717-1721 and then back to 1716. I think I likely found her birth record, but the handwriting is very difficult to read. Since the concensus is that her patronymic name is "Danielsdotter", then her father's given name would need to be "Daniel", it seemed to be easier to look for "Danielsdotter". And I think this is the right person:

Norra Ny (S) C:2 (1702-1749) image 57, 2nd entry for the year 1716 [actually her baptism was on 2 Jan 1716] .
Karin ??? Danielsdotter, born 17 Nov 1715, baptised on 2 Jan 1716. Parents Daniel .... ? and ...? Persdotter [???] from ....???
I used the website http://www.tydatext.se/tyskstil/ [Asa Petersson, 2014]
- still difficult, but it maybe "Karri" shorten for "Karrine" and likely is a deviation from "Katarina"
- the mother's given name also seems to have the same spelling as "Karin"
- thus, it looks like "Karri" became Karin in the marriage record and in the Fryksände parish houehold records.

Note: there is another birth with a patronymic "Danielsdotter" from 1715-1721 and that is:
Lisa Danielsdotter, born 19 Mar 1718 from ....? parents Daniel ... Eriksson ???? and Elin ??? Persdotter ????

NOTE: the above is not absolute proof, but I think it is a reasonable conclusion. On the my Legacy database I will use the name "Karin" with alternate of "Karri"


"Finnar i Östmark, Vitsand, Nyskoga, Södra och Norra Finnskoga", by Jarl Ericson. 1996, Arvika, Sweden
image 1411
- records: Daniel Grelsson Moijainen, b 1684 - 23 Jun 1763; married on Christmas Day [Juldagen] to
Karin Persdotter [Rämäinen, FFN] b 1690 at Digerberget, died ?
- Daniel and Karin first settled at Digerbeget, where their first 4 children were born. Karin's brother took over the farm [my interpretation of the comment].
- Daniel moved to Flatåsen to raise his family. They stayed there in the future.
children:
Annika Danielsdotter, b 9 Nov 1713 at Digerberget [Norra Ny parish births, CI:2, image 49, 2nd side]
Karin Danielsdotter, b 17 Nov 1714 - this must be an error - none recorded of 1714, but noted CI:2, 57, 12st
Matts Danielsson, b 9 May 1718 - but not recorded in births/baptisms for that date, but maybe im 65 b 26 Mar
Per Danielsson, b 29 Jun 1720 [CI:2, image 75, 2nd side]
Daniel Danielsson, b 2 May 1723 at Södra Flatåsen [CI:2, image 91, 2nd side]
Lisbet Danielsdoter, b 26 Jan 1726 [CI:2, image 103, 1st side]
Kerstin Danielsdotter, b 12 May 1728 [CI:2, image 113, 1st side]

Finnar ... records some more information about son Matts and son Per and their families bottom of page 122
and the top of page 123. Nothing on the other children, nor on daughter Karin.

On the top of page 122: some information on Daniel Grelsson (b 1684) father Grels Mattsson Moijainen b about
1653 and died 1738. Daniel's mother was Annika Andersdotter [page 121]


---------------------------------------- Oct 2021
Both the Ancestry.com FT (Henriksen FT) and the geni.com FT (see Hinrik Pålsson b 1750 research notes) indicated that Karin Danielsdotter died in 1788. BUT she is not recorded in the Fryksände death/burial book for 1788. Scrolling forward, I found her record for 1791,
Fryksände (S) FI:1 (1749-1807) Page 115 no 36 (AID: v6489.b61.s115)
Carin Danielsdotter, died 6 Jun 1791 at Rattsjöberg, age 70 [therefore birth abt 1720-21]
- however, throughout the Household records, her birth is recorded as 1716 (and the above FTs record this date and record that she was born at Torsby, with the geni.com FT recorded as Torsby bruk - but is not uncommon that some other family researchers use the modern divisions, and so Torsby is seems is a more general geographical area).
I believe her age at death is incorrect (not uncommon) or her birth is not 1716
It doesn't appear to be absolute proof that.

I reviewed the transcribed Fryksände parish birth records and there is no person named Karin (with a father named Daniel) born at Torsby during this time frame. Nor is there a father, named Daniel in the transcribed records. This likely means she was born in someother parish.

The Ancestry FT records her father as Daniel Nilsson b abt 1690 at Fryksände parish and mother Elin b abt 1692 - no location of birth and no death date or location.

Karin married Pål Larsson, son of Lars Hindriksson and Marit Olofsdotter, on 12 Dec 1745 in Norra Ny, Värmland län, Sweden.⁹¹³¹ (Pål Larsson was born on 22 Jan 1710 in Fryksände, Värmland län, Sweden ^9132,9133 and died on 27 Jun 1764 in Frysände, Värmland län, Sweden ⁹¹³⁴.)