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Otter Persen Skaaret
(1780-1864)
Ragnhild Olsdatter Kvernmo
(1786-1862)
Per Ottersen Skaaret
(1806-1884)
Ellen Torgalsdatter Vestby
(1807-1882)
Torgal Persson Skaaret
(1836-1930)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. Karin Mickelsdotter
2. Maria Ignata Norgren

Torgal Persson Skaaret

  • Born: 13 May 1836, Skaaret, Trysil, Hedmark, Norway 3581
  • Marriage (1): Karin Mickelsdotter on 3 Feb 1868 in Los, Gävleborg, Sweden 3579
  • Marriage (2): Maria Ignata Norgren on 10 Feb 1881 in Los, Gävleborg, Sweden 3580
  • Died: 11 Nov 1930, Los, Gävleborg län, Sweden at age 94 3582
  • Buried: 11 Nov 1930, Los Kyrkogård, Los, Gävleborg län, Sweden 3583
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bullet  Research Notes:

1. Trysil-boka, p 561

- flyttet til Loos i Hålsingland - Hålsingland is a historical province or landscap, but no administrative function
- so actually, this is Los, Gävleborg län, Sweden ;; NO entry in moving-out records for Trysil parish

2. Sweden Church Records; Los, Gävleborg län,

Torgal Persson Skaaret

Husförhör

1861-1869, (AI:6), page 59; Kyrkbyn ;; [ I believe this means, "church village" ]
Handelsman [ Merchant ]; born 13 May 1836 Trysil parish, Norway
- Torgal Persson Skaaret moving in on 22 Aug 1867
[ BUT Los moving-in records, B:2, 1862-1895, image 14 no 9, recorded on 8 Oct 1867 ]
- married on 3 Feb 1868 to Karin Mickelsdotter


1870-1874, (AI:8) page 48, Kyrkbyn - Handlanden Torgal Persson Skaaret and Karin at Krykbyn; then on 16 Oct 1873 to page 33 at Grufbyn, no 5 (also Torgal's brother, Per Persson moves to Grufbyn)

page 33; Grufbyn;
Torgal Persen Skaaret, wife Karin Michelsdatter, born 22 Jan 1844
then, his bror, Per Persen Skaaret, born 30 Nov 1848
then, forsterbarn, Lars Wiktor Halvorsson, born 21 Feb 1871 on Los
also on this page: Sven Pålsson and wife; Johan Olsson and wife at the bottom; at the top of the page is Per August Öhman born in 1832 at Jersjö parish, but I'm not sure of the county - there is a Järvsö parish in Gävleborg, so this may be the same place
[re, Gammalt Loos 1, meaning "Old Loos, 1" Los library booklet ]

1875-1879, (AI:9) page 42, line 2; Grufbyn no 5; Handelsman [Merchant] .. ; Torgal Persson Skaaret, married to Karin Mikkelsdotter, born 22 Jan 1844 born in Färila parish, Gävleborg, married 3 Feb 1868 ;;; household visited by priest 29 Mar and 3 Oct 1875
- also recorded is a Foster son, Lars Victor Halvorsson ? born 21 Feb 1871 at Los

- and, forster son, Per Jonsson born 14 Feb 1870 at Särna and moving in from Särna on 30 Aug 1878 (foster son label is used in the "Gammalt Loos" booklet, but this is a misnomer. Per Jonsson would be a nephew of Torgal Persson ; Per Jonsson is the son of Jon Persson (Skaaret), a brother of Torgal Persson Skaaret,
- he moved to Los - moving out of Gördalen for Los on 30 Aug 1878 [B:1, 1845-1894, image/page 23]. He is recorded as single and also as a "Skäv" *** he goes to Torgal Persson Skaaret at Grufbyn no 5 in Los parish; see his file for information


- on line [9], Handels Brother and Bokhållaren, Per Persson Skaaret, born 30 Nov 1848 at Trysil ;;; see p 54
p. 54, image 60; on Kyrkbyn farm/locality, Handlanden, Per Persson, born 30 Nov 1848, married 27 Feb 1879 and came from Grufbyn; married to Kristina Elizabeth Olsdotter, 15 Oct 1858 in Los, and daughter Elin, born 16 Aug 1880 in Los [ later daughter, Tyra Persen, born 9 Sep 1884

- further down on the page is (3rd from bottom), Olaf Olsen Skaaret, Drång, from Trysil, 20 Jun 1880

- from "Gammalt in Loos 1", it is noted: In addition, two baker journeyman and many maid servants and farm workers

**** Grufbyn, sometimes spelled Gruvbyn, essentially means, "Mine village". In this area there was a "cobalt mine" that opened about 1736 and mined until about 1773. Likely a village with a few miners came into existence and many people who came to the mine, stayed and may have had some work with the mine, but also with the forest, hunting, and fishing. By the mid-1850's, most of the economic activity was likely through forest activities, hunting and fishing, along with some cattle and gardening. Sometime in the early 1990's the mine was opened as a museum for tourists. See a couple of articles/webpages I found on the mine.

*** Torgal Persson Skaaret became a merchant at Grufbyn and over time became quite weathly. In the summer of 1980 when I was in Sweden, some relatives had said that when families were unable to pay their bills, he took land and forest from them as payment and over time he accumulated a lot of land and forest. (See , "mom's 2-inch brown binder on the 4 families).




1880-1884, (AI:10) page 42, line 1; Grufbyn; Handlarden - likely commerce, trade, merchant
- born 13 May 1836 at Trysil, Norge; but then the year 1880 ??? is written - married 1868 to Karin Mikkelsdotter, born 22 Jan 1844, Färila parish, Gävleborg; she died 29 Dec 1880 and he remarried on 10 Feb 1881]

also listed is brother's son, Olaf Olsson Skaaret
also listed is brother's daughter, Gurina Olsdotter Skarret, born 12 Apr 1867 at Trysil; arrived at Los in 1883

1885-1889 (AI:11), page 48, Torgal Persson Skaaret, married to Maria Ignata Norgren born 24 Feb 1859 Ofvanäka parish
[ "Gammalt in Loos 1" says she was born at Lillskog, which is likely the farm/locality ] ; married 2 Oct 1881; Enka 1880;
- fosterson Per Jonsson, born 14 Feb 1870 at Särna (see A:9 book),
- forsterson Karl August Trogen born 21 Aug 1878 at Waxan (farm/locality) in Los, Gävleborg; and forsterdotter, Alida Trogen born 4 Feb 1881 at Waxan (their mother died in 1883 and the these two children came to live with Torgal 11 Sep 1883)

- also listed is Ole Olsen Skaaret born 1896; and Gurine Olsdatter Skaaret born 1867

from "Gammalt in Loos 1", it is noted: In addition, baker journeyman and many maid servants and farm workers. This also notes that Karl Aust Trogren and Alida Trogen** were the children of Lars Erik Trogen born 3 Apr 1848 and 'Stafs' Anna Johansdotter born in 1 Nov 1846 at Alfta and she died 7 Dec 1883. After she died the children moved to Torgals.

** Facebook post (...old images from Trysil), 28 Jan 2018 by Sisdel Rønningen: Karl Aust Trogen and Alida Trogren came to Torgal's in 1883 when their mother died. Both were "servants". Karl Aust married and had his own place. Alida married and they emigrated to America. ..... In a same thread, but on 12 Apr 2019: in relation to Christer Persson - from Sisdel to Christer, "Torgal Persen Skaaret and Per Persen Skaret were brothers to your great-great grandmother [tipptippoldemor]' - this means that Christer Persson is a cousin. Christer had posted a picture of Ragnild Persdotter Skaret married to Børre Børresen on 13 Apr 2019
.... Per Guttorm Skaaret says that "my 2nd great grandparents", Skør-Per and Ellen Torgalsdotter and he says that he lives at Søgarn in Skøra and "lives there" - home place ??
....and from Tone Sønstebø "Go Slekta! I'm signing up in five-Menningsklubben. Ellen ( Mom was the name stated Eli) Torgals and Skør-Per were also my tipptippoldeforeldre [2nd great grandparents ]


1890-1894 (AI:12), page 51, Torgal Persson Skaaret, farm Gruvbyn (Sk 1,4)
- Torgal, wife Maria Iganta Norgren; two foster children, Karl August Trogen and Alida Torgen


further down this page (line 29) is Ole Olsen Skåret, wife Kristina, daughter Avy Rangborg, and son, Olaf Arthur
- there is a note written under Kristina and above Avy - "antr nunt" ????? - I can't a translation; 'antr' is the beginning from some words, meaning to "enter into", but 'nunt' ????
- lists family leaving for North America

- a number of people are listed on this page, including Gurine Olsdatter Skaaret, born 1867 in Trysill as a 'piga' who is referenced to page 50 where she is recorded as married to bonden, Anders Persson on 2 Nov 1890 and she is recorded with twins born 1891 (also on page 50 is likely Anders Persson's parents, bonden Per Andersson born 1825 at Färila)

NOTE: "Gammalt Loos 1" makes no mention of Ole Olsen Skaaret .....


1895-1904 (AIIa:1) page 90, Torgal and Ignata
- fosterdaughter, Ragnhild Johansdatter born 1897 in Trysil, came on 5 Apr 1902 [ B:3, 1895-1916, page 16 no 3 ... Ranghild, dotter t...u skor.. ??? - I can't make it out ]
- also fosterdaughter, Elin Mathilda ? Bengtsson [ "Gammalt Loos 1" ]
- also, Karl August Trogen and Alida Torgen and moving

- a large number of people are recorded on this page

"Gammalt Loos 1" notes that 1895-1899 "äges" [äga, meaning "owner] Kyrkbyn no 5 by Torgal Persson in Grufbyn and Per Persson in Kyrkyn



1905-1913 (AIIa:3) page 128, Grufbyn
- Torgal, wife Maria Ignata Norgren -- she died 14 Apr 1907
- another foster daughter, Ragnhild Johansdotter (born 29 Sep 1897 in Trysil) -- see research notes for Anne Marie Persdatter, b. 1777
Elin Westalia Bengtsson, born 17 Jun 1902 in Los
Sara Jonsson, born 14 Oct 1886 in Los
and, Elise Børresen born 15 Sep 1877, Trysil, ...?gårdspiga; arrived in Loos in Dec 1908
** Elise Børresen is the daughter of Børre Børresen (b 1837; his great-grandmother was Kersit Ottersdatter Skaaret, born 1742
and Ragnhild Persdatter (b 1841); and was an aunt to Ragnhild Johansdotter, b 1897, and a sister to Ragnhild's mother


1914-1924, AIIa:5, page 136, Grufbyn, Torgal and fosterdotter, Ragnhild Johansdotter (born 29 Sep 1897 in Trysil)
- and, Elise Børresen born 15 Sep 1877, Trysil, ...?gårdspiga


1925-1937 (AIIa:8) page 181, Grufbyn

- Torgal died on 11 Nov 1930
- Ragnhild Johansdotter (born 29 Sep 1897 in Trysil), married on 2 Oct 1927 and moves to Norrbyn (no 6) on page 309; married to Johan Ragnar Norén born 18 Jan 1891 in Los, with a daughter, Kerstin Sofia born 15 Apr 1928 in Los

And, Elise Børresen born 15 Sep 1877, Trysil; recorded as a hushåll. housekeeper



NOTE: There are number of Family Trees on Ancestry that record Torgal's name, date of birth and his death at 1929 (a couple record death in Trysil). However, as usual there are no source citiations. I have no idea where the year of death came from. Also note that the FT's on Ancestry do not have any detail about him and no information on his marriages




3. Summary: regarding a summary of "Skarets first arriving in Los parish Sweden"

Torgal Persson Skaaret: 22 Aug 1867
Per Persson Skaaret: 6 May 1873
Gurine Olsdtr Skaaret: 21 Nov 1883
Olaf Olsen Skaaret: 20 Sep 1884
Ole Olsen Skaaret: 20 Sep 1888

* note both Olaf and Ole had returned at least once to their home place at Skåret in Norway and then returned again Los




4. facebook 1 Feb 2017

- a number of photos, some saved in my PC under his name
- a "history book from Grufbyn" - photo of his place 3584

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bullet  Noted events in his life were:

1. Residence, 1861-1869, 1861-1869, Los, Gävleborg, Sweden. 3579 Farm/locality: Kyrkbyn

2. Moving in, 1867, 22 Aug 1867, Los, Gävleborg, Sweden. 3585 Moving into Los Parish from Trysil parish in Hedmark, Norway. However the "Moving in" book (B:2) image 14, line 9, records 8 Oct 1867.

3. Residence, 1870-1874, 1870-1874, Los, Gävleborg, Sweden. 3586 Farm/locality: Krykbyn (page 48) and moved on 16 Oct 1873 to Grufbyn (page 33)

4. Residence, 1875-1879, 1875-1879, Los, Gävleborg, Sweden. 3587 Farm/locality: Grufbyn

5. Residence, 1880-1884, 1880-1884, Los, Gävleborg, Sweden. 3588 Farm/locality: Grufbyn

6. Residence, 1885-1889, 1885-1889, Los, Gävleborg, Sweden. 3580 Farm/locality: Grufbyn

7. Residence 1890-1894, 1890-1894, Los, Gävleborg, Sweden. 3589 Farm/locality: Grufbyn

8. Residence, 1905-1913, 1905-1913, Los, Gävleborg, Sweden. 3590 Farm/locality: Grufbyn

9. Residence, 1914-1924, 1914-1924, Los, Gävleborg, Sweden. 3591 Farm/locality: Grufbyn (no 5)

10. Residence, 1925-1930, 1925-1930, Los, Gävleborg, Sweden. 3582 Farm/locality: Grufbyn


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Torgal married Karin Mickelsdotter on 3 Feb 1868 in Los, Gävleborg, Sweden.3579 (Karin Mickelsdotter was born on 22 Jan 1844 in Färila, Gävleborg län, Sweden 3579 and died on 28 Dec 1880 in Los, Gävleborg, Sweden 3592.)


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Torgal next married Maria Ignata Norgren on 10 Feb 1881 in Los, Gävleborg, Sweden.3580 (Maria Ignata Norgren was born on 24 Feb 1859 in Los, Gävleborg, Sweden 3580 and died on 14 Apr 1907 in Los, Gävleborg, Sweden 3590.)




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